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Nullsoft and Justin were absolute legends. I'm pretty certain Winamp v2 also used amp, just as it was blowing up to become the most downloaded program online.

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Winamp owe a lot to amp - the first version was essentially a skin + port of his library to Windows. I can't remember how he dodged patent issues, but he had his name and an ask for donations in the about box of v1 iirc. The decoder Winamp used was actually amp - developed by Tomislav Uzelac.

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Spiderbait's song 'Calypso' was probably the most popular mp3 download in '97 since it was only 2.5MB and a lot of people just wanted to try this new mp3 thing everybody was talking about. We also picked which songs to download locally based on their size

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I recall then that even new PC's couldn't decode at full CD quality and you had to downscale. It was 1997 when things got rolling, just as Winamp was released. The first scene releases of mp3's were in 1996. dro (assuming this reply ever gets posted as I've been trying for over an hour)

I've already asked for help over the 5yrs or so I've been trying to make WACUP but the things that need help with doing are also the things that no one really wants to do (e.g. It might make more sense for other projects especially those starting out fresh but that's not ever been my mindset with how I've been doing Winamp plug-in related development since 2003 along with the 5yrs I worked on Winamp & if that means people will avoid WACUP then so be it as they're more likely to be sticking with the AOL provided 2.x releases anyway.Īlso it goes both ways on the trust aspects & maybe when the likes of fb2k, aimp & musicbee go OSS I might eventually reconsider my dinosaur like approach to development but there has to be a tangible benefit for me to do it. So maybe I'm more terse than I should be about such things but that's also just how I am. I'm also not trying to be a jerk either but when I'm constantly being told by random people that I have to be OSS when it comes to WACUP that's also not particularly helpful other than introducing more potential work for me to do when there's absolutely no guarantee of a return to that effort. the point of 2.) is to provide an approximation of what we have today but in a way that automatically limits developers from abusing JS. for users generally: provide a way to browse the web faster and more comfortably for security conscious users: provide a safer way to browse the web for companies: massively lower the barriers for new browsers (remove lots of backwards compatibility and the huge problem of JS) All js must complete in a specified number of cycles. Remove anything that isn't needed and especially anything that affects rendering negatively for no good reason.ġ.1.) Possibly: Provide versioned, vendor neutral versions of js to allow for autocomplete.Ģ.) Same as 1, but with custom JS. There is another thread going on about bringing back web 1, but here is something I have been advocating for a while, make 2 different new web profiles, along the lines of:ġ.) A subset of modern HTML / CSS, custom Javascript.

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